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Don't feed the dog scraps. They are so bad. I learned that lesson the hard way. Although my dog was frequently fed table scraps, one day something must have just been the last straw. I came into the kitchen one morning to find bloody vomit on the floor. The dogs spleen had become enlarged. Also, when we took him in to investigate, we learned that table scraps we had fed him in the past had caused some sort of bacterial problem....can't remember what exactly. Anyhow, it was all very expensive and difficult on the dog and we haven't fed him scraps since.

Yeah, unfortunately, you need to give up the people-food for the dogs. They just aren't built like us. Their bodies don't necessarily like the sandwiches, chips and such that might otherwise be manna from heaven for them.

My goodness. So many questions!

My understanding has always been that scraps are very bad for dogs. Also teaches then bad manners -- they are constantly begging. I think you will have a bit of a rough time now that Bruno was used to table scraps but I'm sure he'll get used to it eventually.

If you have a Windows PC -- I just got an HP all-in-one, the Photosmart C6100 (not sure if models are the same in SA as in US). Copier, printer, fax, flatbed scanner. Also wireless networking which is great (can print from laptop wirelessly). Works nicely though has a few hiccups with Windows Vista; from the reviews I read it is flawless with Windows XP.

Since the last time I got exercise was 6 months ago, I have no idea about the stitch!

Stitch: As you walk / run, as your foot that is on the same side as the stitch hits the ground - breathe out. This fixes it really quickly!!

Chicken: If it is a one kilo chicken put it in a oven bag in the oven at 180 degrees for one hour. A one and a half kilo chicken for one and a half hours - easy!! The oven bag stops burning.

Scraps: I stopped giving my dog scraps when she stopped eating regular food - she started getting really fussy! She only wanted scraps. So we also have 'good stuff' going in the dustbin. Sad but true!

I have a no-fail roast chicken recipe and its relatively easy. Let me know if you want it.

The main reason we don't feed our dogs scraps is because it leads to them begging, but it's pretty bad for them too. My vet has a poster on the wall that does an equation of what human foods translate to for dogs: One chocolate biscuit is like feeding half a cake to a small dog!

You could get Bruno some doggy treats (beenos or something like that) to give him to wean him off the leftovers, just so that he still gets something when he watches you throw away half a badly cooked chicken ;-)

I'm interested in the "not feeding dogs scraps" topic. I've got a dog that we normally feed cooked food to and the cooked food normally translates to pap or rice mixed with bone meal &/ any leftover food scraps that I have e.g. veg or leftover meat or sometimes left over takeaways etc.... is this what you guys are referring to as being bad? If so, can you explain to me why it's bad? I can understand not giving your dog chocoalte and chips and junk like that though but the normal 'human' food stuff? I've never had a problem with this yet.

Really? Scraps are bad? I've grown up with at least four dogs at any one time and we have always given them leftovers. We even save them to add some excitement to their morning meal. We of course steer clear of any bones because we've had some bad experiences but we have never had any of our dogs become sick because of scraps. Poor Bruno. It looks like its kibble for him now.

With the running maybe try and find a breathing pattern (if you don't already have one). I breath in through my nose for two strides and then out through my mouth for two strides.

No advice for the printer, though. I'm terrible with that stuff.

Gave left overs to my 1year 6 month golden retriever and was told last week by the vet he's obese- (I don't think he is) and was told to put him on diet!!! So no more left overs for him! boo hoo.
With regard to scraps- buy an earthworm factory!! They are fab- about R800,00. You can put ALL your scraps in- earthworm eat it and then deposit their waste which falls into the tray below which is bascially a black liquid- which is AMAZING for your garden- so enviro friendly!!! So that solve your scraps problem.
Stitch- I get them- like a pulling feeling. My husband says it's because I drink too much water at one time and too fast while exercising- no sure if that's true though!!
Have a beautiful day!

It depends on the scraps really I think. Basically I think if it's good enough for human consumption and my dog loves it, why not, but we don't give him anything with cheese on because he seems to be lactose intolerant. Quite honestly with all the bad things happening with pre-packaged dog foods these days, there's no way scraps could be any worse.

As for the printer thing - we just bought an HP 6310 or something from Game and it works wonderfully. All the features you're looking for.

Hi

My dogs get the leftovers from supper (usually the veggies, some meat etc). However, they get fed once a day (in the morning). So they will get their scraps for breakfast the next day. Other scraps like left over lunch gets thrown out.

They never get fed scraps off the table, because this advocates begging. But I also do not have the heart to throw out food. Surely if you mix the scraps under the dogs food, it should not be bad?

None of my dogs are overweight. However, I believe an absolute no no for dogs is chocolate.

My neighbour's mother told me on a birthday a while ago that "moeders worden dik van 't sund"

You might understand it but in english it would be moms get fat from oh that's a shame

Printer - I got a Lexmark all-in-one from Dion 2 years ago and it's great! Just make sure if you have Windows Vista that the printer comes with updated drivers!

Dog and scraps - we used to keep all leftovers in the fridge and cook it into their pap and we never ever had unhealthy dogs!

Stitch - I was also told the stitch is from drinking too much water too quickly when exercising, apparently no matter how desperate you are for liquid, you need to take small sips!!!!

I have heard that scraps are bad. Not all though, but especially fatty stuff, bread etc. There are also things that are almost poisonous to dog like chocolate and avocado and apple seeds. Apparently their systems digest things differently

About the stich, I am not sure what causes them but have read (and use) this method. Lean slighly into the side where the stich is and then apply firm pressure with your fingers on the spot for a minute or so. If that does not work, stretch your arms above your head and take a few deep breaths.

There are many reasons why you shouldn’t give your dog food scraps, but for me personally the most important reason is that many foods that are completely safe for human consumption are poisonous to dogs including onions, fatty foods, grapes, avocado, garlic, nuts and chocolate.

Iro dog food: www.phouka.com/dogs/dogs_kind.html Basically they same that some scraps are perfectly fine to give your dog, as long as you'd still consider it good for human consumption. They give a list of foods that dogs should not eat. It is easy to say "no scraps", just remember that loads of "dog food" is not all that good for your dogs. I guess a combination of dry and tin food / good scraps is best.

Iro stitch: you can google "what causes a stitch" and go to the ask yahoo page. It is apparently something to do with a liver ligament.

Iro printer: We have a HP PSC 1410.

Cant help with the other questions - but re. the cooking - buy a slow cooker!! I love mine - chuck a joint or small chicken in before leaving for work, and when get home its fully cooked, no burning or raw bits in sight and tastes gorgeous. Add some ready to roast veg in the oven and you're away. Its also good if you chuck in a couple of cans of oxtail soup, some parboiled veg and some dumplings - ready made stew without any of the hassle. There is no way I could cope with a toddler and working without my slow cooker. x

give the damn dog the scraps, you'll feel better and he'll feel better... see problem solved!

stich~ don't go from 0-100 in 5 seconds... start slow, warm up... it usually happens when you go to fast too quick, and drinking lots of water before doesn't help either.

printer~ get a laser, the ink on a inkjet can get very expensive.

there ~ i'm a genius ;-)

Dogs & Scraps - no ways! I had a dog who ate scraps and her gut split open and she died. I will NEVER allow scraps ever again.

Stitch - caused by too much too fast. Stand upright and press firmly into the area of stitch, if it does not dissipate, breathe hard through pursed lips to ease it until gone :)

Printer - I have no cooking clue!

Cooking - don't do it, we don't want to lose you in a fire *giggling*

Someone told me once (or I read somewhere) that all food ends up in the garbage or toilet. It doesn't HAVE to go through your stomach first. That has helped me resist eating leftovers just because I'm afraid to throw them away.

Don't feed your doggie the scraps.

Dog scraps - if he's not overweight, and what you give him is real food, nothing too processed or chemical - thats ok. Absolutely NO chocolate - and don't give him scraps PLUS all his food! He will get fat!
Stitch - Ok here's the medical jargon: A stitch is honestly one of those medical mysteries. No one knows the exact cause of them, but there are a number of working theories. Where do you get the stitch? If it's just along the costal margin (around your rib cage) - it's probably related to a spasm in your diaphragm - and this in turn would relate to your breathing. Apply firm pressure to the stitch and stand tall, so stretching out your rib cage and muscles. It should ease quite quickly.
hope that helps! Happy running

Oh - and printer
I can recommend the Canon Pixma all-in-one. Fab photo printer, scanner, copier etc...
Not too expensive here in the Uk, so ask your "boet" to buy one if they cost the earth in SA.
When buying these printers - it's always worth bearing in mind how expensive the replacement ink is, as this can counteract the savings made when purchasing a printer.
I recommend you get a printer that uses individual cartridges for each colour, so you only replace single colours at a time. Also - get one that accepts generic cartridges, as the branded ones cost a fortune. (the canon printer accepts generics and uses individual colour cartridges)

My hp officejet 6110 all-in-one - is a jewel - my dad is still trying to hunt a second one down, but I think they're off the market, used to be R2000 2 years ago

HP - Buy officejet instead of deskjet.
http://www.incredible.co.za/services/catalog/moreinfo.asp?sku=41767
or
http://www.incredible.co.za/services/catalog/moreinfo.asp?sku=59484

Stay off the lexmark track when it comes to smaller printers. Got a lexmark in the garage, more expensive to repair than buy a new one.

We've got 3hp's (1xinkjet 2xlaserjet) very happy with all of them.

Try and buy one level up, not the cheapest and it will last you many years. My 3yr old 6110 still runs like a dream, even on vista - no drivers needed.

A vet friend told me long ago not to feed a dog scraps, they are bad/unhealthy for dogs. I don't know how true this is (perhaps he owned stock in the dog food company?) but I've always followed his advice and my dogs have always been very healthy. But I'm not 100% convinced that scraps are bad. I would think some would be fine (meats?), perhaps mixed in with dry food. Our dog doesn't get canned food either. He's pretty deprived, as dogs go, but extremely healthy!

I've had dogs my whole life, and we'd give them scraps too. Never a problem, but we always made sure they got meat and not poultry bones/chocolate/junk food.

My older dog was a stray for 2 years and lived off of garbage. He's quite fine.

I'm also a paranoid nut who thinks that most kindly "advice" and clinical studies are sponsored by people who want to sell you stuff -- like dog food companies!

No advice w/r/t the stitch, as I'm comfortably in my lazy, chubby cycle. I don't forecast a diet/exercise plan for me for at least a month or two. :)

It is all dependent on what those scraps are. Junk food for dogs is a no-no. If you ever read any independent studies about commercial pet foods you would most likely never feed it to your dog again. I feed my dogs a commercial dog food because I am lazy but I supplement with fresh fruit, veggies and cooked meats (no bones). They also get the leftover baby food. My mother who has tons of time on her hands only feeds her dog food that she prepares special for the dog. Liver, rice, veggies etc. It always makes me laugh cause she is a vegetarian but cooks meat for the dog.
But like someone else said, if you are supplementing their food with veggies, rice etc, cut back on the kibble, or they will have a weight problem.

The "stitch" is a result of lactic acid build-up during aerobic exercise . . . specifically your anaerobic threshold. At the point you get the stitch, you are not supplying enough oxygen to your muscle to remain in aerobic activity. You need to slow down or stop, and breathe deeply until it goes away. Try going more slowly at the same activity next time. As your fitness increases, your anaerobic threshold will increase, meaning you can go faster and harder someday. Hope this helps.

Yeah, no scraps for the dog. Too much fat, salt, etc. They have different dietary needs than we do. Also, what everybody else said (I skimmed the other comments, but didn't read each one in depth.)

And if you are forced to cook at some point, I've started a food blog. There are different recipes every day for things that are easy to cook and that kids will mostly eat and aren't horribly complicated. I'm in the U.S., though, so our measures/temperatures are probably different, and some products might not be available.

The chicken thing reminds me that I should probably do a "Roasting Chicken 101" blog. You are not the only person I've heard complain about how a simple meal shouldn't be such a difficult task.

Anyway, the blog is http://akitchenyear.blogspot.com.

Dogs and scraps - we give our dogs scraps every now and then. They love rice and veg - can it be THAT bad?

Printer - HP or Canon Pixma would be my recommendation. Have them at both work and home.

Stitch - can't help you there, but what suzzcq70 said sounds right.

Roast chicken - Woollies.. already roasted, throw in some salad, veggies and bread rolls and you save a good 2 hours.. which can be spent with your feet up sipping a lovely glass of wine (or two) I'm not big into cooking either!

Don't have a dog so can't help with that :)

Stitch: Breathe out firmly before breathing in again, don't drink too much water on an empty stomach just before/during exercising, and warm up first!! :p

Printer: All the brands have some awesome options (HP, Canon, Epson, Lexmark, Brother). Your best bet is to check the individual specs of each one, especially the cost of the ink/toner and how many pages you will be able to print off each ink/toner. If you don't need colour print, the Brother range have some lovely LaserJet 4-in-1 printers. (Print, Fax, Colour Flatbed Scan, and Copy)

Check out the following:
Brother MFC 7420
Brother MFC 8460N
HP 3052 MFP
HP 3050 MFP
HP 3055N MFP

If you want colour:
HP Office Jet PROL 7680 MFP (InkJet)

I have a summary of these including replacement ink prices and number of pages per toner if you'd like it...

Some dog scraps are ok such as meat and veggies. No bones!!! At all. And NO chocolate - it's deadly.

Do you compost?? Some of the leftovers can go into a compost pile or bin.

I cannot understand how these cooking disasters happen to you every time. Do you perform some kind of crazy-ass anti-cooking juju before you ever enter the kitchen?

(FWIW, I'll totally lay money on the idea that you either a) had it in the oven before it was thawed or b) started cooking it too late, got impatient and then jacked up the temparture. A medium sized chicken can actually be cooked in the oven at 500 degrees for 55 minutes and turn out beautifully)

We feed our dog scraps, but we're careful to avoid things that could hurt her. Here's a list:

http://www.petalia.com.au/templates/storytemplate_process.cfm?story_no=257

I like Lexmark printers.

You honestly need to take a cooking class. It sounds like you had the heat too high, so the outside got burned before the inside had time to cook. Did you use a recipe?

Is your oven calibrated wrong? Maybe when you have it on one setting, the actual temperature is much higher? Maybe it would be worth a couple bucks to buy a thermometer that would sit inside the oven and tell you the real temperature?

No scraps for our dogs except occasional meat like turkey from thanksgiving. If you are concerned about food waste, you can always create a compost pile (or buy a compost bin) and dump the food there (only food that cannot be composted is meat). Then you can use the "black gold" for your plants and gardens or give it away to people who are gardeners.

Stitch....a side stitch happens when your diaphragm gets a spasm. If you get one, raise the arm on the side of the stitch up over your head and stretch that side, pressing in with your hand on your abdomen and lifting up gently. To avoid one, breath through your nose, deep, even breaths....rapid breathing can cause a spasm.

My parents would give their labrador scraps - such as left over meat on bones - such as chops etc, not poultry. Well, he became constipated and had to have surgery to remove a whole heap of undigested bones that were clogging up the system.

Ooh! I'm all three of those things!

So yes, scraps are bad for dogs. Overweight dogs the size of yours can lose several years from their already short lives. Think about taking a few decades off a human's life. That's what happens to dogs. Plus, dogs are allergic to a lot of normal human foods. Some mushrooms. Artichokes. Stuff you wouldn't even think of can cause kidney failure or other big problems. Think of it as "I can throw this uneaten food away, or use it to help make the dog less healthy." I think a few nibbles now and then are fine, but they are not a garbage disposal. The food is going away no matter what you do with it. So why not throw it out?

I'm skipping printer advice.

For the stitch, it's a little focused cramp, usually in your side. In general, they don't know well why they happen. Some they understand, though. I found this fascinating bit of research on a specific kind of side stitch I get when I run. It happens because of a sore tendon that holds the liver in place. It turns out that we tend to synchronize our breathing with our steps. If you are running and exhaling as your right foot hits the ground, it moves this tendon in a strange way and that causes cramps. If you stop, stretch a bit, and focus on swapping the exhale to the other foot fall it goes away. :)

There is also an old native american solution that you should stop and look for a round rock. That will fix it. Of course, it has nothing to do with the round rock, but the process makes people slow down, stretch (by bending), and think about something else. It's amazing how well that works!

Grab a coffee/tea/wine/water. This may get very long. :)

I was never one to give a dog scraps until I read the book "Smarter Than You Think" by Paul Loeb. I used dry dog food as it was easier and cheaper than canned food. What convinced me that scraps were fine was when the author pointed out that farm dogs from long ago lived to be 20+ years old surviving on table scraps. Now our pampered dogs with today's designer dog food, we're lucky to get 10-13 years of good life out of a dog. I thought that spoke volumes. Ever take a good look at some of the canned food contents? Some of them look like stew! If beef, noodles and vegetables from a can are okay for my dog then why would my cooking not be okay? Is fake bacon better than real bacon? Besides, as soon as your dog is sick, your vet tells you to give him chicken and rice. Why wait until they're sick? Add some veggies to that, and you have a well-balanced daily diet. You know what's in it, it's fresh and your dog feels valued because he's eating the same foods as you are.

In regards to the begging and behavioral problems; It also was explained in the book that dogs feel more like part of the family and "included" when they are eating the same foods as the family. They are more content which causes LESS begging. If you're feeding them smelly dog food and you're eating a steak and potato that's teasing the dog's incredible sense of smell, there's going to be some jealousy! I went from a pain in the ass dog who always seemed hungry to a pretty content dog after I started giving him scraps.

Have you ever seen what happens to a piece of kibble when it gets wet? Dry dog food is more detrimental to your dog's gut than healthy table scraps. Dry dog food expands up to 10 times its original size (depending on brand) in your dog's stomach. It absorbs all the moisture from the dog's stomach which makes them drink excessive amounts of water all the time. That constant stretching and retraction can cause what is referred to as "twisted stomach" (gastric torsion) over time. It's when the stomach becomes so overstretched that it no longer goes bag to its original size and it literally turns and twists. (Think of it like a worn out balloon.) At that point, nothing can go in or out which ends up being fatal in a short period of time. Usually before the owner or a vet knows what's wrong, it's too late.

The chocolate being fatal thing? My 9 year old dog would be dead 10 times over if that was true. I have 3 children who routinely leave their goodies in the dog's reach which he happily chomps down while no one is looking. He's eaten entire bags of M & Ms (wrapper and all!), homemade chocolate pops and candy bars of all varieties and he's never even vomited from it. While I don't advocate giving your dog sweets or any other type of junk food, I wish the "chocolate is deadly" theory would stop. One thing to consider here is that I'm talking about American chocolate. Chocolate from other countries (England is one) may have a higher cocoa content which CAN be harmful to dogs.

I highly recommend this book to everyone who owns a dog. It's not full of "live your life around your dog" mumbo-jumbo. It just contains a lot of down to Earth info that anyone could put to good use.

Dog-rant over...

Printer: Brother MFC665CW $130USD
printer, copier, scanner, fax, wireless network capable.

I suggest avoiding Epson. They're great while they're alive but usually have short lives. They also tell you that the ink is empty when there's clearly more in the cartridge. (I believe there was a class-action suit regarding that.)

I second the motion that you need a crock pot (slow cooker). It makes anyone seem like a fab cook.

I've suffered from the "stitch" my whole life and don't know how to avoid/fix it!

Ah, you have to cook a bit - at the very least so your kids can see it is possible and learn to do it for themselves when they are older, then they can take over and cook for you in your dotage...!
Have you ever visited http://thepioneerwomancooks.com/ ?
It may take a little to work out the conversions/equivalents from American to South African, and am not saying her food is healthy by any stretch of the imagination (as she herself admits!), but her step by step photography might be of help, plus she writes with a great deal of humour, which is always welcome.

As much as the dog enjoys them the food scraps definitely need to stop. The increased fat content can lead to pancreatitis. My vet says all dogs should eat is a good well balanced dog kibble. She even says treats (Milk Bones, etc) are terrible for dogs and just lead to them being over-fed and thereby becoming over-weight which leads to a whole host of other ailments.

Are you preheating your oven????? It sounds like you're not just from how you described the chicken.

We give our dogs some scraps, but always in their bowls outside (never from the table) and not everyday. They will eat anything!

We love our HP 4 in 1 (3100 series), which cost us about $80 US.

I get a stitch when I run, it hurts like hell. I don't know of any cure but so I stick to low impact cardio like biking and the elpitical.

As for the scraps, we give our dogs some. I don't think it's a huge deal as long as it's not the main part of there diet.

Some few things I've learned...

Giving a dog too many scraps is not good, just like eating too much crap is bad for you! Kibble is good for them! Although some human food is okay, ie (this is about to get gross) if the dog is suffering from erm, diarrhea, plain white rice is something that is great to give them. Helps solid everything up.

The oven must have been up too high, I'd recommend a cheap slow cooker!

Good luck!

Your chicken was cooked at too high a temperature. That is why it was burned on the outside and was still raw in the middle. You need to use a temp that will allow the inside to get done without burning the outside. Cook meats at a low temp (~325 or 300 F...no more than 350 F). If the outside needs additional browning, raise the temp for the last 20 minutes or so.

I have been told that scraps are bad. Unless your dog is very active he will be more prone to getting fat on table scraps.

As for the stitch, enter "stitch + exercise" into google and you will get many hits. The most likely cause is it has to do with the fact that the liver 'hangs' on the diaphragm by some ligaments which get stretched while exercising and that causes pain.

Scraps are bad unless you're mixing custom dog meals. Why? Even if you're feeding a relatively safe, nontoxic kind of scraps, you're likely to be giving the dog an unbalanced meal (too much/too little protein, too much salt, etc), which can lead to problems.

If you want to blow people away with your awesome chicken cooking skills, get an Alton Brown book (or check out his website) and a digital thermometer with a remote probe and an alarm. Basically, all you have to do is set the thermometer for the right temperature, put the probe in the thickest part of the thigh, throw it in the oven, and take it out when the thermometer's alarm goes off. At that point, it's not too burned and not too raw, and you don't have to fret over it a bit. Ta da!

People always ask me what my magic chicken/turkey secret is, and that's it: I have a thermometer with a probe.

My SIL the vet says not to give the dogs table scraps or feed them anything but dog food. So we don't unless something accidentally gets on the floor and then the dogs can be pretty darn fast.

Don't know what causes a stitch except I get them if I've had food or water too soon before exercising.

On the scraps -- eh. If you have really really active dogs and you aren't giving them a ton of scraps, I wouldn't stress it. But if they are backyard dogs who lay around all day, then you might want to skip the scraps.

On the printers, I have an HP Officejet 7400 that does a nice job, but might be a bit more printer than you want or need. Does scanning in color and B&W, prints pictures, prints in B&W and color and faxes. Also has docks for printing from memory sticks and such. V snazzy.

Onion, Grapes, Raisins and Chocolate are especially dangerous for dogs. (and poultry and pork bones, of course). We let our dogs lick up uder the high chairs, and DH DOES work for a petfood company...hee hee. Meat and rice tidbits can't be that bad, in addition to a regular dog food diet. Frankly, our dogs have gotten into the trash or chocolate and eaten worse. Bacon grease soaked paper towels...tampons...Frieda even ate a whole bottle of antacids, once. (Rx: a couple Tbsp. hydrogen peroxide, per her vet, to induce vomiting)

I always thought a stitch was your spleen acting up. Drinking water too fast and walking/running too fast without warming up, always did it to me.

Tertia,

Perhaps we, your devoted readers, need to go in together and purchase a few cooking lessons for you! :)

Truthfully, I HATE cooking. However, I am trying to work on that, because eating out every night is expensive and unhealthy. Plus, I am constantly made fun of at social gatherings..."So, what did you buy for dinner last night? Hahahahaha...do you actually know what a stove is?!" Yeah.

The thing is, I can actually cook a little bit; I just find zero enjoyment in it and am rather limited in what I can do. My biggest suggestion to you, and something that has helped me greatly, is a crockpot. Just dump stuff in and let it cook for a few hours! Also, rice cookers are a great, no effort addition to your kitchen. One thing I've had to work on is not trying to be a gourmet chef. You don't have to try to produce hugely fancy, difficult meals to successfully feed your family. Work on simpler meals at first - pop a roast in the crockpot with a few of your favorite veggies and make rice in its little cooker. A whole meal and all you had to do was dump it in a pot and let it go!

This scraps discussion is pissing me off!

Just like people, dogs are individuals. Chocolate has killed many dogs, why take the chance because one or two people say their dogs do just fine eating a bag of M&M's. Some people do cocaine too, "just fine", and then die suddenly the next time they snorted up. A dog might not die from the 1st thru 5th bag of M&M's, but the 6th bag might be the one to kill it. A bag of M&M's to a dog is like 15 bags to us ... and that's not good for us!

Yes, we're told to feed our dogs rice when they're sick, because it helps firm up the poopies again. But as a regular diet? Do wolves eat grain in the wild? Not in normal times. Maybe in famine times. Humans are told to eat chicken soup when we're sick, but not as a daily diet the rest of the time. How many dogs would choose a bowl of rice over a bowl of meat if given the choice? Dogs are meat eaters, and kibble is sadly lacking in so many things. Sure, dogs can be healthy while eating it, but I always wondered if they could be healthier. I "look" healthy on the outside, but feel like shit on inside, and I know it's because I eat too much junk.

Table scraps tend to have fat, salt, sugar, and bones. All of which is tastier than plain old kibble. My dog got pancreasitis? from bacon fat, and died. I didn't know it was bad for him, I was just flavoring his kibble, I thought. Avocado has a high fat count. Grapes are just the right size for a choking hazard. Some of it's just common sense if you think about it, but there are some differences between human and dog digestive systems.

Feeding scraps can lead to begging behavior, so when and if I ever did give them something like steak or chicken scraps, I fed them from the kitchen, after dinner, after the dishes.

Also, dogs have a pecking order in real life, and in order to have well behaved dogs, it's been suggested by Cesar Milan that you eat first, which tells them that you are the pack leader (boss). Look up Cesar. Facinating reading as far as training dogs. LOVE him.

I've had to research dog diets far more than I ever wanted, because one of my dogs is allergic to something in kibble. My two dogs get raw chicken and some vegetables. The raw bones in the chicken act as "fiber" and don't splinter like cooked bones do. Nothing processed. Even so, I cringe when they chew the bones, never leave the house while they're eating them, and take them to the vet at the first hint on something being wrong with them, because I panic at the thought of those bones - even tho they're both 8 years old now, and have been eating raw chicken/bones for 7 years with no trouble. One of them has had various health problems from time to time, but none of them have been diet/digestion related... even tho, in my imagination, when he's staring into space in the middle of the nite and won't sleep, I've convinced myself he's got a bone splinter tearing him up. He gets seizures on occassion, and I know it's a seizure, and the vet will tell me that when they get to be more than 2 a week, THEN we'll do something for them, but I take him in immediately anyways, because of those damn bones - just in case.

So I am in the position of wishing I could feel kibble because it's easier, and they could be healthy enough, cause chicken is more expensive and worrisome. Believe me, I tried to twist the research my way, so I could feed kibble, but I honestly believe feeding a raw diet is best for them. Raw does not equal table scraps tho - a whole nother discussion. In general, the average family's table scraps are not good for a dog.

I'm sorry this is so long! I must feel passionately about it!

Oh yes, I wonder ... doesn't Marko get tired of you always having to ask the Internet before you'll accept something he wishes? I know I know ... I shouldn't use the word "always".

:-)

I give my dog leftover bits of dinner ... IF it's dog-healthy food. Pizza? No. Chicken, rice, and brocolli? Sure. And, I cut back on their food (high-end kibble, though I wish I had the guts to go RAW), so they don't get fat.

Be wary, many "ok for people" foods are not so good for dogs. Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure, for example.

Gah, I have to chime in here. Some of the information you've gotten regarding table scraps is accurate. Some isn't, and I'm not going to go through each comment.

I've been a practicing vet for 10 years. In our practice, we do both conventional (Western) and Traditional Chinese Medicine. Many of our clients either feed raw or cook for their pets. I would debate the comment "kibble is good for dogs." It depends on the kibble. There's some pure crap out there. The party line in my vet school nutrition courses was that dogs should only get kibble. After I graduated, I did a lot more research into the subject and I began feeding my own dogs raw or home-cooked. It's a pain, but it was the healthiest they've ever been.

As for scraps, it depends on the dog and it depends on the food. Some dogs are more sensitive and you could end up with a nasty bout of pancreatitis or gastroenteritis. Some people food is toxic, as people have stated. But to be honest, my own dogs eat table food, and although I pay attention to what they're eating, I don't worry about it.

No scraps.

Easy mind game - what do wild dogs eat {raw meat + tiny bit of vegetation}? Does that look anything like the half a peanut butter / jelly / banana sandwhich that the kids don't want?

How would your digestive tract {built for omnivourous tasty goodness} do if you ate only hardbound books or something equally off your natural diet?

It would be possible for awhile, maybe even a long time, but in the end it just isn't good for them.

We have always fed our dogs scraps mixed with their dog food. We avoid the bones. One is 10+ years, the other is 6 years, none of them had any problems. They only see the vet for shots.

Stitch: Do some light warm-up exercises before you start in with the hardcore stuff. Stretching is also key (although I am an endurance runner/triathlete and I don't stretch like I should, so I am not very good at practicing what I preach) You might think about doing some pilates/yoga to help with your core muscles and get those strengthened to help with your posture and form. It will also help tremendously with your breathing and the stitch. Also make sure you are hydrated throughout the day. Don't try and drink a ton of water right before you exercise or that will create problems too. Better to maintain hydration daily then to try and make up for it right before an exercise session. Hope that helps.

I don't give my dogs leftovers but most human food that is healthy for humans is healthy for dogs if given in moderation. Both of my pups get yogurt, broccoli, carrots (not too many, high in sugar), apples, strawberries(no grapes or raisins, they are poisonous), meat, cottage cheese, pumpkin, etc...

Most of these are mixed in with the dog food and just serve as a treat. If I give a lot, the dog food amount is adjusted to make sure they aren't eating too much.

A high quality dog food is very important--it makes the dogs shed less, they aren't smelly and are generally healthier. Brands like Iams, Purina, Eukanuba are crap and are the equivalent of us eating McDonallds every day. Check out dogfoodanalysis.com or dogaware.com for more info.

Bad this for dogs:

- Alcoholic beverages
- Avocado
- Chocolate (all forms)
- Coffee (all forms)
- Fatty foods
- Macadamia nuts
- Moldy or spoiled foods
- Onions, onion powder
- Raisins and grapes
- Salt
- Yeast dough
- Garlic
- Products sweetened with xylitol

Anything else, you just need to make sure they don't get fat.


A compost pile is also a good way not to waste food.

I can't believe that in 58 comments only THREE people suggested composting your scraps. You need to compost that leftover food. Give the meat to the dogs but nothing else.

A stich happens for a bunch of reasons but just keep exercising and you won't get them any more.

And last, but not least - HP makes great, reliable printers. The only issue is that the cartridges are expensive.

Are some of these people complete idiots? Do NOT feed your dog scraps, it is not good for them, do so damn research on the matter instead of "oh we fed our dogs scraps and our dogs were perfectly ok!"

DOGS AND HUMAN FOOD

I do not have a dog, but logically wouldn't see what was wrong in feeding a dog some scraps from my table.

I looked it up out of curiousity and found, as always, a mix of opinions even from vets.

I thought this article was pretty good.

http://allaboutlabradors.blogspot.com/2008/01/dont-feed-table-scraps-to-your-dog.html

I am sure in the old days there was not all this fancy food for dogs and at the same time not all the processed food humans eat.

As with everything some common sense and/or self education/research is needed.

COMPLETE IDIOTS!?

Comment or not comment OK I'll comment.
Not appropriate IMO. There are nicer ways to say things if one feels strongly about a topic.

STITCH
Usually affects people who haven't warmed up properly and have eaten too close to exercise. It is a sharp pain in upper part of abdomen made worse by deep breathing.

Two possible reasons:

1.During exercise, our blood moves away from the diaphragm to the limbs.
The diaphragm is the muscle that separates the stomach and abdomen from the heart and lungs. It's one of the main muscles involved in breathing. Most scientists believe the pain is caused by a reduction in blood supply to the diaphragm, causing it to cramp.


2. The stitch is caused by fluids which the body finds hard to digest.

This causes the gut to "tug" on the ligaments connecting it to the diaphragm.

What to do?

No-one knows why, but these two methods are known to work!

Stop running completely and touch your toes.

Pressure on the area will help to relieve the pain. Use your fingers to press firmly on the painful area.

You can run off a stitch easily enough but it affects you for a couple of minutes. BBC SPORT

Apparently (according to a show on Oprah), dogs should be eating raw meat because they are carnivores i.e meat eaters. If you can stomach the raw meat, cooked is fine as long as you add a few raw veggies to taste. Dry dog food was at the bottom of the list of things to give your dog because they are full of carbs and make your dog fat!!

The solution to the burned chicken is to use a slow cooker. I have a Russel Hobbs with 2 sections.

Recipe: Brown the chicken in a pot with onion, transfer to slow cooker, pour about 500ml chicken stock over the chicken. Switch on to low for 8 hours(you don't even need to check it!). About 4 hours before it is finished, put your rice or veggies in the other side with water just covering them. If you plan it well, it will be ready just when you want to eat. If you want to, you can grill the chicken slightly in the oven for colour. I sometimes use the stock to make a gravy but it is sometime too fatty then I throw it away and make a new gravy with instant soup.

The slow cooker was a life saver to me because I work far from home and it is late when I get in. I put it on in the morning and the food is done when I get home.

Commercial dog food has only existed sine the 1950's. Before that, dogs ate what people didn't. Period. There are a lot of people foods that are dangerous to dogs, onions and chocolate are big no no's, but vegetables, meat scraps (without bones), rice, pasta, etc.? Sorry, I don't buy it. Avoid spicy, super rich sauces, high fat foods, since it can upset their stomachs, but I will have to second the vet above. BUT, make no mistake about it...they WILL become beggars.

I had a Weight Watchers leader tell me something once that helped me put throwing food away into perspective. "Everything goes to waste, it just doesn't have to go through you first". Of course it's hard to break years of habit but it does make me feel better when I don't finish everything on my plate or I throw away my nephew's half eaten food.

Ooooohhhhhh...fun!!!

Hey, ugh? I've got a $120,000 degree that says I've done more research into animal nutrition than you have.

In the wild dogs are omnivores. Eating small amounts of grain, meat, veggies, and fruit is normal and healthy. I have fed all of my dogs the BARF diet and all have been extremely healthy. In addition to the mostly raw meat that they eat they get our table scrapes. Although our tablescraps are healthy morsels of food. We mostly do not eat any junk food which equates to the dogs eating healthy scraps. It has become such an o0verwrought statement about dogs not getting scraps and to only feed them baked by products with corn kiblet. I do not think it is the healthiest. However it surely is convienent and occasionaly I feed it as well. Those tablescraps provide trace nutrients (assuming they are healthy) and a vareity to their diet. When my dogs do eat kibble I see them out in the yard chewing on grass to get something live and fresh. When I feed them the BARF diet they do not chew on grass. My two cents.....

By the way since I have now chimed in my annoying opinion.....how are you! I have not written in so long. But I am reading..always! One of these days I shall swoop back into Capetown and put to good use those frozen straws!

Hey, Christine? Ask for your money back.

Scraps - They're bad mainly because of pancreatitis (not to mention obesiety, begging, etc). I work in a vet hospital and cannot tell you how much of this we see. Human food that is high fat, high salt, high sugar, processed leads to badness in animals. As it obviously does with us but that's a whole 'nother issue. If you're feeding the dog home cooked pet food that's another issue. Things like lean, non-red meat, some veggies, rice, and gravy will likely not do serious damage to the healthy dog, but if you're giving him anything sugary, salty, made with food-dye, etc you can have big problems.

Stitch - Not sure if this was mentioned, didn't read all the comments, but it has to do with lactic acid build up in muscles. I used to get them in my side at the beginning of running season when I hadn't trained as hard during the winter, pushing on it with a closed fist or leaning in the opposite direction helps. :)

Slow Cooker saved my life, and yes, the kids will most likely eat it since you can let them make the food. You just put the food into the slow cooker in the morning, cold, and then turn it on. Totally safe. They might like throwing stuff in with Mommy? You don't even have to stick too closely to the recipes as long as you cook it long enough. Best recipe by far? Beef stew meat with onions, carrots, little beef broth, garlic, and 2 cups of red wine. Serve with some noodles. Critical part: Drink rest of bottle of wine.

I serve whatever hot thing it is that day with a pre-made salad in a bag, and a loaf of bread.

I've never effed up a slow cooker recipe once, and I am the Queen of burnt on the outside, raw on the inside. Seriously, it's my rep. Like a public joke.

When you get a stitch in your side while exercising, empty your lungs by exhaling as much air as you're able. Then inhale as much fresh air as you can until you feel as if your lungs will burst. Hold that air in your lungs for as long as your able, maybe ten, maybe twenty to thirty seconds depending on your stamina. Repeat until you feel as if the stitch has disappeared. Do it again when the stitch comes back and eventually it'll go away for the rest of your workout.

I run long distances and this method always works for me. I don't know the physiology behind why it works, it just does. Another long-distance runner taught me to do this and I've taken his advice ever since.


As far as printer advice, I offer this: I have a Canon MP 830 I purchased a few months ago. It offers the features you are looking for and so far I am very pleased. Don't know if it is available in SA.

first time reader and poster..funny the first thing i read is about feeding dogs. i feed raw as in raw meaty bones. i have for 4 or 5 years now (i have 3 small (11-12 pound) dogs). what is bad to feed dogs is any commercial dog food. and don't think vets know anything about nutrition because they don't. they get 1 or 2 classes taught by the pet food manufactorers (mostly hills science diet). that said if i wasn't going to feed raw anymore i would feed cooked food. meat and veggies, no grains (and not a lot of the sweet veggies as they cause yeast issues). you can go to yahoo and find some good raw groups just to learn about it (rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com is probably the best one with over 10,000 members). kibble is crap really. no dog would ever eat it if offered real food.

I've heard that before - that the nutrition classes are subsidized by the pet food companies, and I'm fascinated. Where did you hear that?

I had a full year of animal nutrition, taught by two different board certified veterinary nutritionists. We learned how to read a label, what everything means, and the nutritional requirements for the different species and different underlying health problems. There was no discussion of any specific products. Neither of the doctors teaching us worked for a pet food company. One worked at the university and one worked at a nearby large referral practice.

For what it's worth, Kris, I agree with you on the BARF diet, but please don't misrepresent my profession that way. I know what goes on in vet school. I was there.

Hi

I have got a meat thermometer that you poke into the chicken or any meat and it gives you the internal tempreture in a few seconds. It was from Woolies and it has the directions right on the handle. E.g. if beef is at 60 degrees then it is med-rare.

Was the chicken frozen before you popped it in the oven? v v bad idea. :(

You've heard it all, no scraps for dogs. No need to rehash why (I'm a raw food feeder). But how to deal with the leftovers and not feeling wasteful (or waistful)?
Try cooking less of the throwaway type of left overs and keeping a supply of healthy fillers when they want more than was put on the plate. Or put less on the plates initially and have "real" leftovers that can be used. Its also a timesaver to cook this way. Cook something versitile and use the leftovers in many different ways (tomato sauce for pasta, sloppy joes, chile, stew, soup etc).

One other method to help with the most common stitch is to just take slow deep breaths until its gone. You're often breathing shallow and fast. If its not a breath stitch, then keep a log of what you eat each day, how long before exercise etc and find out what causes them for you (for some people its eating to close to exercise, some not close enough, type of food etc)

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