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We're almost at 28 months so I was laughing hard. Especially since I just told the boy not to touch this picture on the wall and girl immediately moves to rub her little fingers on it.

This is the only thing that is easier--when I don't understand one of them, I ask the other person to say it too. And between the two of them, I can usually figure out what they want. They are each other's translators.

That said, we still had a row this morning when I wouldn't let them go outside in the cold rain and run around a tree in our front yard (this is an exciting game they created called "bock-let-bips"). And yesterday we went to the food store in all of our jewelry and a tutu.

Does it get easier after 22 months? Do they not call it the terrible twos in SA? Sorry I can't say it gets easier...my daughter is the same age as yours and I can't wait for her to outgrow this bossy-give-it-to-me-right-now stage. Then again, I don't want her to grow up either.

You've captured it perfectly.

About the only thing that got better for us after 2 is that my daughter has gotten easier and easier to understand as she gets older. She's 2years and 3 months now and we can understand almost everything she says. However, she is still very independent and also believes that "no, please don't do that" means "this is great fun and you absolutely must try it as soon as I turn my back". I can't imagine how you twin moms do it!
Karly said it right - they call it the terrible twos for a reason!

Better? I think it gets worse, before it gets better. SORRY.

The "I don't want it until you have it" disease is still happening and my DD is 3. We have hundreds of toys here and as soon as my son touches it, she MUST have it.

I also clearly remember my son in the highchair firmly saying "pey-chee" and I had no idea what he was saying. I finally had him lead me to the pantry and point. Peaches. OF COURSE.

erm...through to 13 and counting. Same issues, different toys.

Sorry.

Ok. Now I'm a little freaked. Why? Because we're going to have almost exactly 22 months between the boys when I have the baby.

Sob!

What a perfect characterization of a nearly 2 year old. I always like the 'terrible twos' because it was fun watching the kids develop independence and like you I feel a little sorry for them not being given free rein. I only had to do it one at a time, though. This is just further proof that people who raise multiples are special.

Does it get easier? I think so. It gets different but the particular issue of helping a person develop an appropriate sense of autonomy gets easier in some ways - until they want to sneak the car out at night and then it gets hard again ;-)

The one advantage of the terrible twos is that communications do get better. And maybe we can get out of the diapers.

As for season appropriate clothes, we lived in South Florida when DD was 2. We were always in shorts and bathing suits, as few clothes as possible. One day she decided to explore the few winter clothes we had and insisted on wearing "long-sleeve pants" for the rest of the day. The term was so cute I couldn't turn her down.

On your poll, I was wondering what the difference between the 2nd and third options are.. they kind of seem to be the same thing to me, just one sounds like it's more "okay"..?From the results, if I group those 2 answers together your readers are a secretive bunch!!(lol...this is meant in a lighthearted way!)

ps: I include myself in that group!!

Does it get easier? Well, my twin girls will be 4 in about a month, and so far I'd say it doesn't really get easier, but the challenges do change. They are better able to communicate their needs, they get a bit better on the judgement part (not a whole lot better, but enough better that you can imagine going somewhere with them alone and not having them in a stroller), and it gets more and more fun as you really get to see who they are solidifying before your eyes. But oh, the discipline challenges! At 2, pretty much all you can do is redirect. As they get older, you've got to figure out a discipline strategy that you can employ consistently. I'm still working on it. :) But mostly, I have found the last two years have been a major test of my maturity, not theirs. It takes a lot not to let their behavior get under your skin, to keep the perspective that all this naughtiness is age-appropriate and a necessary part of their development. And it's doubly hard with twins, because often when you impose consequences on one kid (like, no TV), it impacts the non-naughty child. So you really have to be creative so you can be fair in administering consequences. If anyone has it figured out, I'm all ears.

I remember asking the same thing of other twin moms at about this phase, and also remember hearing pretty much the same answer. Now I know what they meant. But I have high hopes that by around school-age, they will get a bit easier to manage.

So hang in there, unscrew the cap off the ole' Chardonnay, and hunker down for the next few years. There are challenges ahead, to be sure, but there are also some great joys coming your way.

Out daughter is almost 25-months. I want to say been there and still there. Will it get easier? Well, looking at our six year-old, I say it gets easier on the communication front, but the drama a six-year-old can produce. HAH

Just wait until the f***in fours. lol

Ummmm, hate to say it but mine are now 38 months and still the same thing....

Now mine are delayed a little bit but still everything you said seems hauntingly familiar. Like I just experienced it a minute ago (and I did) and will again the second I'm of this computer.

I think things get better when they're about 10.

I second the F***ing Fours - holy shit! My daughter just turned 2 last week and she is a breeze compared to her 4 year old brother!!!LOL

I am laughing my ass off about the toy thing. My boys will be 1 next week, and they spent the whole day today going through their toybox and fighting over each and every toy, then throwing it away. I guess I have a lot of fun to look forward to.

As a pre school teacher, I can tell you that it gets better, and then it gets worse again. Two year olds are terrible, and yours are just in the pre-terrible two stage. Three year olds are like ducklings, and they want to be helpful, and they take direction well...and then they turn four. My mom says that odd years are good, evens not so great, but that doesn't take into account 11 year olds, or 13 year olds does it?

I remember when my friend's son had his 2nd birthday party. She offered him something that he did in fact want, and right on schedule, he said, "NO." Her eyebrows went up. I burst out laughing and said, "You ain't seen nothing yet."

I got this from my daughter's child care centre and it is right on the money:
TODDLERS' RULES OF PROPERTY
If I like it, it's mine
If it's in my hand, it's mine
If I take it away from you it's mine
If I had it a while ago, it's mine
If it looks just like mine, it's mine
If I saw it first, it's mine
If you put it down, it automatically becomes mine
If you like it, it's mine
If it's broken, it's yours!
If it's yours, it's mine!!
That is toddlers to a tee.
And yes, *that* part does get better, but new challenges will come. I have a DS 6 and a DD 3. She's stopped with the horrible two-year-old stuff, but now the two kids fight almost incessantly and if they're not fighting they're dobbing on one another. The dobber feels quite self-righteous and the dobbee cries piteously for ages, especially if it is the Ladybaby. Each new stage is a challenge but the 2 -3 year old stage is the worst.

Did you miss that bit about the Toddler Rules? It's like this, toddler/s are responsible for making up our own rules as we go along - for some funny reason, you parents think its so great when we show our individualism so now we are going to let it have full rein.

But all rules are subject to change without notice - just because we loved the blue cup yesterday doesn't mean we can't hate it today unless of course you have to get it out of the dishwasher for us to use, in which case, we still love it!

You are expected to understand all new rules/unscheduled changes to old rules immediately. How difficult can it be? You're big and seem to know an awful lot about how to you want to organise us, therefore you should understand.

We understand that old people can sometimes experience hearing loss, therefore we wil repeat ourselves at increasing volume if that will help you to understand what we need.

And logic. We've heard the word but its a little bit difficult for us to say and, unless its a new flavour of ice cream, I don't think we know what it is so, so we'll just concentrate on other things we're trying to learn right now, like how to get your instant attention by unbuckling our car seat harnesses ALL BY OURSELVES.

Toddlers' rule, OK!

Anne,

You and I were posting at the same time and with the same basic premise!

Pay these Cassandras no mind. Yes, it gets easier.

What a great description of the two-year-old character. So annoying, and so funny sometimes. I dearly wish to go back and spend a day with my 2 year old trio. But only a day, thanks!

I have found aspects to love about each age and stage, but there are always a few new challenges. For the most part, it DOES get easier as they grow. There are fewer challenges at a time, for one thing. The 4 year olds and 6 year olds will still quarrel, and be willful and emotional, but their speech and language, and understanding, and memory, and ability to wait, and ability to do things for will improve a lot. And you will be SO proud of how much they can do, and how grown up they are!

Your children are terrific already, but you have many fun (and funny) stages to come!

I think 18 months to 3 and a half years is a very difficult transition. and my context would suggest 3 years old is the most trying time. I think it's the terrible 2's and the really terrible 3's and then all of a sudden there's a light at the end of the tunnel and things are fabulous again...

It gets easier after 3, but 2 years was better than what you're dealing with. But some things don't change - "The food that is on your parent’s plate is far more interesting than your own. Even if it is the same thing you’ve got on yours." - that stays the same for a long time.

You know what I do? You know how a man can repeat back what you just said even though he's watching sports and not really listening? That trick works great on kids. That running patter in the car: "Ooh, look at that car! That's a big truck. What's that? What's that? Look at the red car!" I just echo back the key words and the kid thinks I'm actually paying attention, but I'm really lost in my own thoughts. Huge sanity-saver. (Doesn't work when they're actually asking you to do something, but if they just want to feel listened to, it works like a charm.)

Okay, I am having the exact opposite experience to yours. My 22 month old twins are finally interesting to me and independent. I find them hilarious... even the tantrums. I just ignore 'em and call my kids, "Faker!" ;). My daughter has lately taken to moaning with her eyes closed and then covering her eyes with her hands and shaking her head as if to say, "The Horror!" It happens to be the funniest thing I have ever seen!
For some reason, my kids seem to listen to me. So, if I say "NO!" in a stern enough voice I almost always get them to drop it the first or second time.
My best defense, though, is a good offense. I find it really helpful to divert, divert, divert.
*We all know that since I have said this out loud now things are going to go straight to hell in my house!!

Can I just copy and paste this entry into my own blog? Because that is EXACTLY what life is like at our house (except there is only one baby). I do find though that I like this stage more than when she was younger just because I am starting to see so much more personality, see what makes her HER. I am anxiously awaiting the day when I actually understand what she is saying. We are a bit worse of than you as Ella is learning French and English so for the moment it is complete jiberish. I am always really amazed at all the things your two seem to be able to say.

I found that as speech improved, things calmed down quite a bit. I also found that the more chances I give my (now 2.5 year old) daughter to get out of the house, and physically work off energy at the park/playgroup/gym class/whatever (a change of location seems to be key), the better things went at home. In fact, when she started pre-school, at about 2 years 5 mos, things got MUCH better.

Also -- not sure if they are available there, but here in the US I get these old, out-of-print developmental books by Ames & Ilg. A big dated but they do *explain* what is happening very well. They do a book for each year, starting with 1 year olds.

You should try to get your hands on a copy of "Your Two Year Old: Terrible Or Tender" from somewhere online. It will be cheap, an easy read, and reassuring to know that your kids are *normal*!

Of course it gets easier wahahahaha (evil laugh).

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