The IVF Monster checks in

Apologies for the delay in response, I've been too busy tending to a sick baby, one of the two I didn't kill.  Poor Madam Fifi Albertyn (formerly known as Katie E E) has an ear infection and tonsillitis.  Not fun.  Fortuitously, I took her to the ENT for a check up yesterday (tonsillectomy, grommets, adenoids and sinus wash scheduled for Monday - am so bloody nervous!)  so it is just as well the suckers are coming out on Monday. 

Thanks for all the love on the previous post, you are marvellous.  I wasn't at all upset by old Zsusie's vitriol, at least not for myself.  It is like someone calling you stupid when you know you are not, it is so off base and far from the truth, that it doesn't phase you in the slightest.  I was, and still am a little upset on behalf of the millions of women in Africa who she so disgustingly insulted, but you know what, she is clearly so ignorant, and so uneducated that I can't even take offence about that.  I just feel really sorry for her kids. Ouch. To have a mother like that, what chance do you have? 

 Plus her husband, the preacher, has videos on YouTube preaching about how it is wrong for men to stand and pee. Or sit and pee. I'm not sure, but one of the two will send you straight to hell.  V amusing. He has some other videos as well, but watching them makes my head want to explode, so I am not sure what they are about. But if you are thinking about doing IVF, perhaps you should listen to his sermon on the Seven Deadly Sins of IVF I must say, I did learn something out of this whole thing - I had no idea some people were opposed to IVF?  Never even entered my mind.  Shows you, you are never too old to learn! (IVFers, you have to check out this link, it is hysterical!)

And for all of those who were concerned that I would paint all Christians with the same brush, have no fear.  I got a very sweet note from a Baptist chap saying that while he doesn't agree with IVF and homosexuality (?), he would never do what old Nut Job did and he felt really saddened by her actions.  From the little I know about Christians, I know that the real ones don't behave like that. She isn't a Christian, she is a nut job. 
 
I suppose I should be honoured though, as a commenter said:  the woman who wrote this is well known in Christian circles over here for being ridiculous. I can't tell you how many things both she and her husband have written, published, etc. that are considered cult-like to the general Christian population here. If you do any research on her and her husband, you'll see what I mean. They tend to go after big-name people (such as you, since you have a large blog) and then attack them -- all to get publicity. Trust me, you are only one in a very long list of people they've done this type of thing to.

What an odd woman! What an odd family!  Those poor kids. 

(BTW, my friend Zsusie has posted a follow up note on her blog (comments closed, obviously), officially dubbing me the IVF Monster and saying that she is proud to be judgemental and blah blah. She is not terribly impressed with you either.  How old is this woman?  Five? Actually, the whole thing is getting boring now.  I think old Zsusie is a bit of an attention whore.  And so instead of clicking through to her blog, just read her response below. I'm over it now, off to drink more wine! Love you, bye!)

Thursday, July 10, 2008

Thanks for the laughs!

Apparently, a reader of my blog informed the IVF monster of my post about her. At least that's what I am guessing, since I doubt she would be a regular reader of my website herself. She was so kind as to not only link to my blog, but actually quote my post in its entirety on her website. I am not saying that sarcastically at all, I really am very glad about that because bad publicity is still publicity. Somebody out there might actually realize that IVF is wrong after learning the facts behind it.

I have been mostly amused by the comments and e-mails I am receiving, especially the ones from other Christians, although I have to admit that I am only reading about half of the comments, and usually only the first paragraph even of those. There's only so much time in a day when you take care of 4 little kids. Saying I am judgmental is by far the prevailing remark, with saying that I am a coward for not posting opposing opinions coming in second place. Yes, I am judgmental! Guilty as charged! The Bible never says not to judge, it says to be careful how you judge because you will be held to the same standards. As someone who will never consider killing my children, especially not in those kind of numbers, I have nothing to worry about with that one.

1Corinthians 2:15  But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

John 7:24  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

"Judge righteous judgment" is a command to judge. As it commands earlier in the verse, I did not go by appearance, but quoted the woman's own words detailing her long trail of blood.

Besides, writing to tell me that I am judgmental is a judgmental statement. How can you tell me I am wrong for doing something that you yourself are doing? Sounds like hypocrisy.

As for calling me a coward, that one is particularly funny. If I WERE a coward, I would not have posted about IVF, knowing the angry downpour that would follow. It's reverse psychology on the level of a preschooler, but thankfully I am past that age and it doesn't work.

Other comments have been telling me that this woman will never get saved because of my poor testimony to her. She is not saved for the same reason other people are not saved: because she is too proud to believe on Jesus alone for salvation. She is absolutely right, if people like me or anyone else were going to heaven based on their actions it would be impossible to get there. That's why salvation is only by grace through faith. Even after all her murders, this woman could still be saved if she asked God to.

Of course, there were very vulgar comments, as could be expected from regular readers of this woman's blog, who refers to her 3-year old by a horrible term. I am so glad that all these babies died so she could leave her 2 living children in the care of a nanny all day and call them terms I would never even call this woman herself. But I am the judgmental one, right?

The saddest comments of all were those from people who agree that IVF is wrong and kills babies, but who thought I shouldn't speak out against it. So these people wish I WERE a coward? I guess I just love and appreciate children a little more than to want to see them die by the masses in this process called IVF. It may be a shock to you that I have talked to many women who were ignorant of how the procedure works and what it involves, who after finding out the facts walked away disgusted and knowing they would never, ever do IVF, just like they would never consider having an abortion.

Proverbs 24:11, 12
If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?

So go ahead and keep writing your long comments. They will not get posted, and I will not lose any sleep over it. In fact, chances are I won't even read them in the first place because I am too busy playing with my four wonderful children.

Comments

[Jenn (dish)]

Wow, I miss reading for a week and you find a new and improved troll. How clever. I am glad that you did not take this loon to heart. It is unfortunately the vocal radicals of the world that get the attention. My IVF-baby-toting Christian heart is with you.

[Patty]

She makes me ashamed to call myself a Christian.

That's the only sentence I could write that didn't involve the phrase "fucking cunt."

Ooops! Guess it slipped out anyway.

Love you, Tertia!

[Menita]

My favorite line from your new troll's new post has to be this: "As someone who will never consider killing my children, especially not in those kind of numbers..."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!

[Joy]

Another in a long string of lies - she is obviously a publicity whore and treasures every comment. Nevertheless her words hurt me, and don't tell me they shouldn't. They do. I can't wait until we get done even thinking about her, and I wish I'd never heard of her.

[B]

I also wish I had never heard of her...

[Natt]

Im still confused - Tertia what do you call Adam that is so awful??!!!

[Kim]

I read your blog all the time, but comment very rarely, but this one has me so steaming mad. As a lesbian who required IVF to get pregnant and as the now mom to two-year-old twins, people like your "friend" here just make so angry. It's not her opinion that has me pissed off, it's the fact that she makes no room for differences of opinion and has no respect for anyone at all. I know people who don't think I should be allowed to marry my partner or have children, but they have open enough minds to have an intelligent discussion. This is just drivel - regurgitated old drivel - and it scares me that people like her exists.

[TT]

Gosh, she must be a regular reader of your blog - so am I - but even I can't make sense of this "horribly inappropriate term" that you calleth your three-year old? Was it "you silly banana you"?? whaahahahaha (LOL!)
In any caseth aftereth two glasseth of wineth every she writeths sheems really funnieth.
I would've likethed to telleth her just to fucketh offeth.
Just on behalf of all of us ivf monstrelites.

[Becky]

Ugh, I'm so OVER her. She is obviously delighted by getting lots of "clicks" by insulting you.

I'll just repeat what I said earlier, if you want to flag her blog as offensive then:
"click the flag icon in the Blogger navigation bar to note the content."

Ugh. So glad you have good "happy clapppers" in your life.
:) Becky
http://www.stinkylemsky.typepad.com/

[Orange]

I was one of the hordes of vulgar monsters who wrote the Zsu Animal to point out the hypocrisy of being a judgmental Christian. She tries to flip that back with a "Ah, but it is YOU who are judging ME" line. Yeah, so? I'm an atheist. The "judge not lest ye blah blah" line doesn't apply to me. I'm no hypocrite, and yes, I sure do judge the ill-informed loudmouth type. In an unhypocritical fashion.

Maybe the bad word for Adam was PITA? Maybe Zsu is also biased against delicious pocket bread.

[Bottonz]

Firstly I was so upset for your sake and for every IVF mom and actaully for every African woman, but I am over it now, she clearly has no clue what she is talking about. She is just plain sad !!! I actaully had a good laugh about it.

Again those poor poor kids !!!

LOL why is Kate Fifi now ?

[marta]

It seems to me that in some perverse way Tertia is cherishing the whole contrived controversy.

A previous reader noted on the "mob mentality" factor. Tertia is a master of exploiting this paricular factor.

Clearly, this latest incident is hard to justify. The woman in question is obviously far detached from reality in an unpleasant manner. She is aggressive and non-responsive.

However, Tertia's reaction is not any nobler than hers. Tertia resorts to the same infantile name-calling while avoiding a principled debate. I'm not sure that such a debate is even possible given the specific disparity of opinions and life styles, but Tertia's response is equally primitive and unattractive. It reinforces my opinion of Tertia as a mediocre and rather shallow writer who fails to see beyond the immediately obvious and is unable to instigate a debate which would not use the "fucking cunt" argument. I am invariably surprised to see her blog listed under Julie's and Julia's blogrolls. I may be missing something.

[Tertia]

Oh Marta, how I have missed you so, my favourite little blog troll. Where have you been! Its been ages.

Seriously though Marta, why are you STILL reading my blog? You've told me so many times, in so many different ways for at least the past three years that you hate me and that I can't write at all blah blah, and yet you keep coming back for more. You are a persistent little bugger, aren't you.

But I must give credit where it is due, you are nothing if not consistent in your distaste for me. Such dedication to the cause is admirable.

I've considered banning you from this blog, but you do have a certain entertainment value, so I think I will keep you around for a bit longer.

Love you, mean it! Smooches xx

PS For the record, I have never used the C word. I don't like that word at all, so I think perhaps you have me confused with someone else? I'm a little hurt Marta, I thought you knew me better than that. I'm the 'asshole' girl, not the C word girl. Focus, Marta, focus!

[Melissa]

Tertia, you are hilarious, Zsusuzzuuu (can't even spell it, what kind of name is that???) and Marta haven't a snowball's chance.
I just popped back to say that you will probably have a further honour as the subject of this Sunday's sermon, lucky you! Would love to be a fly on the wall ...

[Judy]

Oh my - first Zsusie's at it again, and now I see Marta's back? Are you sure it isn't Friday yet?

[Lisa]

Who cleans up that long trail of blood that you leave in your wake? I bet it drives Marko NUTS!

[thrice]

This is the type of woman who raises serial killers. Ack!!!

[marta]

"Its been ages."

It has been ages, indeed and your usage of apostrophes has not improved.

Here's my salute to your unwavering commitment to publicly humiliate the dissenters.

marta

[Isabel]

"Tertia is a master of exploiting this paricular factor."
Tsk tsk Marta - You call T on her usage of apostrophes, but my dear - your spelling SUCKS. Now go play on the highway, preferably in the fast lane! Shooooooo...... :-)

[kristylynne]

What? Christopher Reeve? Mouse cells combined with human embryos? Who is this wack job?

Also, I'm going to hell, apparently. I wonder if my IVF-concieved son will go with me?

[Laura from Ga]

Hi Tertia, good that you aren't letting the bitches down!

Marta - Seriously - why are you still here??? Go away already. If Tertia is so shallow and mediocre why do you waste your time reading... surely you must have a life or something to do ( or maybe not). Or go read Zuuushu whatever her name is, she may be more your taste.

Hope that your little one is better soon. Are they removing her adenoids on Monday? my son had that done 2 years ago and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

XOXOXO,
Laura

[mrsmetaphor]

"I am so glad that all these babies died so she could leave her 2 living children in the care of a nanny all day and call them terms I would never even call this woman herself."

Um...what? She blasts you for your supposed "murder" of all these babies and then she sez she's "glad" about it?

I just keep thinkin'....as a follower of the big J.C. myself...how on earth do I love this woman? The answer that comes to me is that basically I love her from a distance...a loooooong distance.

[zeghsy]

um... where are all the negative comments on those two posts? i see 5 on the initial post and only 4 on her response. those 9 total posts don't seem mean, nasty or negative. i'm confused by her close-mindedness.

[Simonne]

Good thing she realises we really enjoy killing those babies huh? And here I was concerned that there may be a world-wise misconception (heh) that it was ... you know ... *difficult*.

One is given to wonder however, what sort of mother cannot understand the depth of love amongst other things we feel to go through what we do to have our children. Would she not do anything she had to for her children? Apparently not.

She stands for everything that made me walk away from organised religion.

[akeeyu]

Marta, is this performance art? Come on, you can tell me.

"However, Tertia's reaction is not any nobler than hers. Tertia resorts to the same infantile name-calling while avoiding a principled debate. I'm not sure that such a debate is even possible given the specific disparity of opinions and life styles, but Tertia's response is equally primitive and unattractive. It reinforces my opinion of Tertia as a mediocre and rather shallow writer who fails to see beyond the immediately obvious and is unable to instigate a debate which would not use the "fucking cunt" argument."

You're bagging on her for name calling, while calling her mediocre and shallow and infantile and primitive aaaaaaaaand unattractive?

Also, knocking her for having commenters who say "fucking cunt"? What if she deleted comments who used language she didn't agree with? Would you, in that case, call her a truly noble creature, or would you instead claim that she was censoring her commenters, OMG, such hypocrisy!?!

I've always been intrigued by the theory that, when insulted, one should immediately flop down like a big fucking doormat and yet simultaneously pretend to be above it all. Fuck that. I'd much rather laugh and say "Christ, what an asshole."