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Slag away girlfriend, being in your world has taught us so much. Yes it is a difficult world to relate to and live in - it shatters a lot of illusions and platitudes. But from a them-us thanks for inviting us to share this space, often i do feel like an outsider (often ashamed i had it so easy) sometimes i have no clue what to say, mostly i wish i could wave a wand and make it all better - but i'm here for the long haul. Love ya T.

All male models aren't thick?

All male models aren't thick?

I can see how the generalizations come easy. I know it is hard for me to sometimes know what to say, even if I just want to help. Sometimes I feel ashamed that I worry about getting pregnant too often, knowing others can't. I suppose we all have our little demons, but I'd rather say the wrong thing with good intentions than say nothing at all.

I take liberties (probably too many) and lump myself in whichever category seems to apply for that particular topic.

Being from the nebulous fertile-infertile camp (those who can achieve pregnancy without assistance, but still can't seem to get a baby home), I usually find the same things offensive that strictly-infertile-infertiles do.

I'm not infertile (that I know of), but I don't mind the us vs. them comments. I never assume you mean any of us who care and follow your progress and wish you (and your babies) the best!!

That said, I definitely don't think many people could call me "normal," so thanks for that!

Tertia
I don't know if I've ever posted here before, and I'll probably mess this up, but...
I have a SIL with secondary infertility, and I know a *little* about what it's like to be on both sides of the fence. I miscarried my first son and spent awhile thinking I'd never have a child. I know that people didn't know what to say to me. And it was akward. And I don't always know what to say to SIL. And that is akward, too. I wanted to say to Aurora that not knowing what to say is okay. In fact, saying you don't know what to say, but you're there for them if they want to talk, or need to vent (or scream) is probably enough. No one really knows what to say all the time. Every infertile person is different, and sometimes (like Tertia mentioned previously) one person can want different things at different times. I've found it's usually enough that you care.

It sounds like you have some really good friends there. Even if they are fertile. ;)

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